- Title
- Did Alcibiades learn justice from the many?
- Creator
- Mintoff, Joe
- Relation
- Alcibiades and the Socratic Lover-Educator p. 90-106
- Relation
- http://www.bloomsbury.com/au/alcibiades-and-the-socratic-lover-educator-9780715640869/
- Publisher
- Bristol Classical Press
- Resource Type
- book chapter
- Date
- 2012
- Description
- Can virtue be taught by the many? Socrates insists that the perfection of our souls is of supreme importance (Ap. 29d-30a, Cr. 47d-48a, Gorg. 477e), he defines virtue as that which will make our souls good if it comes to be present (Gorg. 506d, cf. Rep. 353b), and he claims that, if we do not already possess virtue, then we should seek some teacher of it (La. 200d-201a, Euthd. 282a-b). We shall assume that he is basically right: that if our ultimate aim is to live well, if this requires us to know how to do so, and if we are unsure whether we already possess this know-how, then we should in the first instance seek some teacher in good living. 1 Who should it be? Not the many, according to Socrates.2 As a general rule, and especially on matters of virtue, he asserts that we should be guided by the one with expert knowledge (assuming he exists) rather than the many, who lack such knowledge (Ap. 25b, Cr. 47b-d, La. 184d-5a, Gorg. 459a). Unlike other interlocutors in other dialogues, Alcibiades disagrees. Having suggested that he has learnt justice from people in general, he meets Socrates' stock assertion that '[w]hen you give the credit to "people in general", you're falling back on teachers who are no good' (Ale. 110e2-3), and he responds with the thought that the many can teach lots of different things. If we aim to live well, this issue is of vital importance. Together with the Great Speech in the Protagoras, the ensuing discussion in the Alcibiades is the most extensive treatment in the Socratic dialogues of the competence (or otherwise) of the general public to teach virtue. Accordingly, we shall approach the issue of whether the general public can teach virtue by examining Socrates' arguments, in particular, that the Greek public did not teach Alcibiades justice.
- Subject
- Alcibiades; virtue; philosophy; Socrates
- Identifier
- http://hdl.handle.net/1959.13/1307727
- Identifier
- uon:21509
- Identifier
- ISBN:9780715640869
- Language
- eng
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